RIP, Ozzie! part 1

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Creatures of the night. Horrific bad movies. Mad men, sorcerers, poets. Are you ready to taste the demon toast? [00:00:13] Speaker B: He might have been, Actually, yeah. [00:00:24] Speaker A: Hi, welcome back to. [00:00:49] Speaker B: Where we talk. [00:00:49] Speaker A: About comic books and wrestling. Mostly wrestling. Greg is a guitar player and a coder who desperately needs a job. Please look at his GitHub, which is down below. Greg, say hi. [00:00:58] Speaker C: Hey, everybody. Yeah, I think Dan covered it well. I play guitar. A little out of practice with that, I'll admit. Piano, too. Gotta remember, play Changes or Dreamer. Should learn that on the piano. And for Ozzy's sake, I've dabbled with Bass and UK as well. But, yes, please look at my LinkedIn and GitHub. I've got all kinds of interviews, so I might be taken off the shelf unless you get me first. But, yes, thanks for welcoming me, Dan and Adrian. It's a pleasure to be aboard. [00:01:32] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, sure. This is going to be a fun episode. Well, maybe not fun. I mean, you know, we were, you know, kind of. Kind of, kind of blindsided among. Amongst all the horrible things that were happening in the world when, you know, a titan of pop culture died. Someone who ignited a thousand dreams. Someone who made people laugh and cry and shake their fists in rage. We're talking. We're here to talk about Ozzy Osborn, the Prince of Darkness, the frontman of Black Sabbath and his own motherfucking band. The man who typified the rock star and made heavy metal. Heavy metal. So, yeah, it's safe to say that we're all probably fans of Ozzy's music, right? Yeah, yeah, definitely. Gotta say, the Hulkster really, really picked a bad week to die on. Right? I mean. [00:02:16] Speaker B: I mean, he kind of killed himself before then, in certain ways, as far as my affection for him. [00:02:23] Speaker A: So, yeah, I think we all fell out of love with Hulk Hogan. I agree. [00:02:27] Speaker C: Yeah. But he did get lost in the shuffle. Lost in the sauce. [00:02:31] Speaker A: That's all I'm saying. So, yeah, Ozzy Osbourne, contentious figure. Obviously, we here on Demon Toast, we previously covered Neil Gaiman and we made the, you know, the important statement that celebrities are not your friends. They're rich people who make art that you may or may not enjoy. And that doesn't really say anything about who they are in real life. So just gonna reiterate that that is still true, even though we're talking about Ozzy Osbourne and the impact his music had on our lives. He's not my friend, but his music was incredibly important and it's something I really enjoy. So, you know, Adrian, when's the first time you heard Ozzy's music? [00:03:06] Speaker B: I think I was about 5. My mom was really into Iron Butterfly and Black Sabbath and David Bowie when I was a kid. So when I was five, like my sister and I would dance around to, you know, like Iron man and Crazy Train. And it was like, it was pretty special. Like we had this like circular rug and I remember we would just. Like I was five, she was three, and we would just like dance around and it was unlike anything I'd ever heard because, you know, like, it was rock and roll, it was metal, it was. It was just different. [00:03:41] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think I'm gonna guess that all of us, you know, Adrian, you're a little bit older than me, but like, we're all relatively in the same generation. So it would have been our parents actually playing the music for us. Right. So, yeah. Greg, how about you? When was the first time you heard Ozzy or Sabbath? It's not a big. I don't make a distinction really. [00:04:02] Speaker C: So because I'm young, I guess my. Yeah, it had to have been Iron Man. I started playing in more like fifth grade guitar. And so that was quite a while ago because I'm way older than a fifth grader now. But are you? Yeah, unfortunately. [00:04:24] Speaker B: Mentally? Physically? [00:04:26] Speaker C: Definitely physically. Hopefully mentally too. Yeah. My first exposure to Ozzy was learning Iron man on the guitar. It's one of those like first songs everybody learns. I mean, yeah, you're not going to learn the Tony Iommi solos right out of the gate, but you'll. They start with like a one finger version of it that you learn on guitar when you're really young. And then you work your way up the power chords. But yeah, that was my first introduction to Ozzy, really. And then, you know, to. If you want to go a step up from there, like, this is why I am really into the Paranoid album. Because then, you know, went to Paranoid. I don't know why I almost forgot the name of the song. It's the name of the album too. But that it's a technique in guitar that you get used to. I mean, it's kind of like beginner bridging to intermediate, but like hammer ons and pull offs. So that was something that I learned from Paranoid. And then the first two are not on our list, as we talked about earlier. But the next one also was one of the first songs I learned. Electric Funeral, all from the Paranoid album. So I got used to that. My guitar teacher, he really liked Sabbath and he illustrated how important it was to, you know, Learn your power chords. He didn't like Green Day, so, I mean, those are. It's like Green Day, Nirvana or Sabbath, probably where you're gonna learn most of your power chord stuff from. So he really leaned into Sabbath. And, you know, three of the first songs I learned on guitar were Iron Man, Paranoid and Electric Funeral. [00:06:20] Speaker A: Right, right. Yeah. And it's kind of fun that, like, I'll tell my story and then I'll. I'll go into my spiel here. So me and my mom, I was fucking, you know, four or something, but we were sitting in her room, and she had discovered America Online, had music, right, that you could click and you could watch music videos. So she was showing me Red Hot Chili Peppers and all this stuff, you know, the Goo Goo Dolls and all this stuff that she liked growing up. And she. She goes, oh, Black Sabbath. You'll like that. I'm like, okay. And she starts playing War Pigs and it's this long, you know, epic intro. And then, like, Ozzy's, like, generals gathered in their messes. Darn it. And she's like, oh, yeah. It's like grunge music or something, you know, it's very, like, grungy. And I'm like, okay, I didn't know. I didn't know what grunge was. I didn't know what anything was. I didn't know my mother was hilariously full of shit either, you know, So I was not four. I was like six or eight, right? I knew a little bit about the world. So I said, you know, generals gathered in the masses. Just like witches at black masses, right? You know, evil minds of destruction, sorcerers of death. I'm like, is he singing about the war? She goes. She looks at me like I'm, you know, the stupidest person that ever lived. And she goes, what war? And I'm like, you know, Vietnam, you know, and she goes, no, this looks not about Vietnam. And I'm like, oh, then why is he saying. Why is he talking about all that stuff? Bodies burning and generals? She's like, he's always talking about that stuff. He's Aussie. And I was like, oh, okay. Just thinking, like, wow. I don't. I don't think she knows what she's talking about. You know, first of many, kind of. [00:07:54] Speaker B: Brilliant. [00:07:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I. Growing up, I thought Iron man was about the Marvel character. It is not. No, not even close. It's about a guy who travels through time and gets warped and turns into a metal guy and gets revenge on the scientist that turns him into An Iron man, which is very much not the story of billionaire industrialist Tony Stark. [00:08:14] Speaker C: Actually, it's from Geezer Butler. He said that Ozzy put this idea in his head. I was walking down the street and I thought one day, what if there was a bloody great bloke made out of metal walking about? [00:08:27] Speaker A: You know, Geezer Butler, that's. He has the most British name ever. [00:08:31] Speaker B: It's perfect. [00:08:32] Speaker A: And that's probably the most English thing I've ever heard as an explanation for a metal song. I know there was this great metal bloke walking about, causing all kinds of mayhem and whatnot. You know, Geezer fucking Butler, you know, My dad met him, actually. He got to meet the band at the end, and it was the kind of thing where you just kind of walk through, you hand them your thing, they sign it. You keep walking. So my dad, as he's going by, he goes, hey, man, sign my arm, Ozzy. I'll get it tattooed, you know? And Ozzy goes, I can't do that, mate. My dad's like, come on, man. I'm gonna get a tattoo of it. And Ozzy lowers his glasses and looks over him and goes, I said, a bloody can't do that, mate. And my dad was like. Like. He's like, oh, whatever, man. He shook hands with Geezer and Tony Iommi, and he thought to himself, like, you know, these guys are pretty cool. They're touching me, they're shaking my hand. Maybe they'll. Maybe they'll fucking, you know, sign my arm, and then Ozzy will feel like the weird. Then my dad was like, wait a minute. And he kept walking. That's the story of, you know, my dad not getting a signature from Ozzy on his arm. I have never met Ozzy Osbourne. [00:09:39] Speaker C: Neither have I. I'm older than you. [00:09:43] Speaker B: And I haven't either. [00:09:44] Speaker A: Sad. Sad. You've met a lot of celebrities, though, Adrian. [00:09:46] Speaker B: I have. I get to see David Duchovny in October, so there's that David Duchovny. That's cool. Why doesn't he love me? [00:09:55] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:09:55] Speaker B: I don't either. We'll figure it out. [00:09:57] Speaker A: So do you guys have a favorite album? [00:09:59] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. You were asking this. Go ahead, Adrian. [00:10:02] Speaker B: I have a favorite album. And that's the thing. Like, I like so many of the songs on so many of the different albums. I don't think I can actually. I sat there today and I racked my brain for hours, and I was like, I don't think I actually have a favorite, like, I like them. Every single album has so many songs that I love. I'm just kind of like, I don't think I can choose right now. [00:10:25] Speaker A: Well, it's easy for me. My favorite Sabbath album is Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath. I love that album to death. A national acrobat, Fluff spiral Architect. A national act. Wait, I said that? Sabra Cadabra, Killing Yourself To Live like that album is a great album to write to, and it's very beautiful. And I feel like it's. It's a mixture of, like, heaviness and true, like, musical virtuosity that just really fucking typifies the Sabbath experience. And if we're talking about Ozzy Osborne, it's gonna be Blizzard of Oz. I mean, come on. Goodbye romance, Mr. Crowley, Crazy Train. So many hits are just on that album, you know? Right. It's crazy. [00:11:02] Speaker C: Yeah, I feel the same way. Well, with you on the Ozzy one, definitely Blizzard of Oz for me, for solo Ozzy. Now, in terms of Black Sabbath, I'm really torn. A hodgepodge. If you. When we get into the lists that we created, I. I mean, I have a weakness for the Paranoid album because I grew up learning guitar off of. [00:11:56] Speaker A: The first album. Fuck yeah. Hell, yeah. Yeah, it's hard because Paranoid has, of course, Iron man and War Pigs and, well, Paranoid and Planet Fucking Caravan. Also. Fairies Wear Boots, that's a favorite of mine. But yeah, that first album, what'd you say? [00:12:11] Speaker C: It's on my list. Fairy Wears Boots. And I can't wait to tell the story behind that one. Why it's on my list. [00:12:17] Speaker A: Ooh, I can't wait. Yeah, the first album has the wizard nib behind the wall of sleep. And I really love Sleeping Village. It's such a wonderful song. I kind of wish the album opened with it, you know, it's just so gentle and ominous, you know, and then that. That guitar at the end. It's a shame we can't play any of it, but, you know, we'll release a playlist along with this episode, so. Whatever. But. Yeah, you know, Greg, I half expected you to say your favorite album was Heaven and Hell, you know? [00:12:45] Speaker C: No, no, with the Other man, with Ronnie James Dio. [00:12:49] Speaker A: I'm just. Yeah, me and Greg. He's not Ozzy. [00:12:55] Speaker B: No, but I mean, he's a rainbow, so whatever. [00:12:58] Speaker A: Only Ozzy Osbourne is Ozzy. [00:13:00] Speaker C: I got a follow up question for you about that, Adrian, actually. [00:13:04] Speaker B: Okay. [00:13:05] Speaker C: You love him as the front man of Black Sabbath or do you love him as his own entity, if that makes sense. [00:13:12] Speaker B: Him as his own entity. Honestly, me too. [00:13:15] Speaker C: Me too. [00:13:15] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:13:16] Speaker C: I'll keep this quick because it's not Ozzy, but that song of mine to learn too. I'll name Rainbow in the Dark and Holy Diver. [00:13:26] Speaker B: Holy for Life. Man used to play Dungeons and Dragons, and my friend Patrick would always put in either Dio or some Ozzy or even some Lemmy. Sometimes it was like some Motorhead. Like, it was crazy. Like, we would listen to all sorts of crazy stuff. But Dio, I'm not gonna lie, was probably one of my favorites. Like, I'm like, holy diva. Like, I can't stop myself. It's like a whole thing. [00:13:55] Speaker A: Vision never ends. Life's a never. I love the music video. Like, yeah, it's cheesy as. But I like where he. He does the bridge and he. He looks right at the camera. Life's a never ending. It's the. It's that era of metal, you know, like, not quite hair metal, not quite, you know, rock and roll, right? It's. It's perfect. [00:14:15] Speaker B: It is. [00:14:16] Speaker A: So that brings me to something I wanted to touch on, right? Like, I've talked to some fucking kids that are like, oh, Ozzy's not metal. Fuck you talking about? That's classic rock. And I'm like, okay. [00:14:26] Speaker B: They consider shit that I grew up with as a kid as classic rock now, so I don't want to hear it. [00:14:33] Speaker A: I've had this argument with Justin, right? I love him very much. He's very smart, he's very sweet. But he's like, well, Ghost isn't metal, Ozzy's not metal. And I'm like. Like, I had to explain to him, look, besides, for historical genres, right? Sabbath, ac, dc, these things are heavy metal, right? What was called heavy metal back then? Yeah, I explained it as there's a heavy bass line. There's usually some kind of dark occult lyrics. Not necessarily. Right. Of course, there's metal about all kinds of stuff, right? But usually, you know, it's got that veneer, right? And usually, again, heavy bass line, you know, very intense guitar. And oftentimes some kind of passionate screaming or yelling vocal style for the singer, right? And that encompasses a lot of stuff. There's some goth groups that are basically metal under those parameters. And I'm like, fuck, yeah. Music is syncretic and art is a conversation, motherfucker. So, Adrian, what do you think? [00:15:28] Speaker B: Actually, I love that so much. I'm going to tell you, like, metal, for me especially, like, you know, the era that I grew up in, which, I mean, that's what we had. We had AC dc, we had Black Sabbath, we had, you know, Motorhead D O. Like, we had all of this amazing stuff, but all of it had that, like. Like, I think you described it perfectly, basically. You had the crazy lyrics, you had the guitar. It was heavy, there was screaming. But then sometimes there were, like, these beautiful melodies that would lead into it. But it always, like, had the feeling of telling a story. I don't know. I don't know. That was just. [00:16:08] Speaker A: It does. It lends itself to fantasy themes really well. [00:16:10] Speaker B: But, yeah, I mean, like, we always played that when I was playing dnd. [00:16:13] Speaker A: Like, I always. You know, I do think that the ballad is an essential part of metal, too. Like, and not just because Metallica had, like, Nothing Else Matters or whatever. I mean, like, Danzig. Right. My favorite Danzig album is four, actually. Believe it or not. Danzig four. And amongst, you know, Brand New God, I am a walking, talking, screaming hell. Amongst all those epic songs, how the Gods Kill. Amongst all that is this song called Cystinas. That's so beautiful and sad. You know, I went through a nasty, nasty, nasty, nasty breakup several years ago. We're not going to name her because she's a private person, not associated with this podcast. But, you know, I took it really hard, and I was listening to Nib a lot. You know the Aussie song Nativity in Black? Right? [00:17:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:01] Speaker A: And that's a song where the devil is seducing a woman. You know, look in my eyes, you'll see who I am. My name is Lucifer Please take my hand. And I was listening to it over and over again because it reminded me of this relationship I had. And then I stumbled across Sistina's, and it sounded like the other side because it's about a demon who's mourning the loss of his lover, you know, and how, like, without her, the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow now that she's gone. And, you know, that's Danzig. If you want to say Danzig's not metal, then, you know, I guess we're not friends. I mean, but, Greg, you're the musician here. I can ramble all night. Tell me what doth metal. [00:17:39] Speaker C: I don't think it really needs to have any specifics. Do it necessarily, like. [00:17:47] Speaker A: Well, yeah. [00:17:48] Speaker C: Well, I mean, I. I don't really gauge it on characteristics. It's more of a feel for me, if that makes sense. Like Led Zeppelin. They're kind of my barometer for a lot of things. Like, they're my favorite band, FYI. But I kind of like, you kind of have the Beatles that came first if we want to go. Well, not even first, but like, first. Like, I don't even know if that's true. But one of the early, first established, well, rock bands, right? And you could say, well, pop rock kind of thing. But, yeah, so they're more mellow than, like, Led Zeppelin. Like, they are probably more in the hard rock era. I would not put them as metal. Metal, to me is, like, all built around, like, really dark, kind of aggressive tones, heavy use of power chords. There's different alternate tunings you can get into, too. Like, metal's kind of evolved over the years. Like, I would say one of my other favorite bands, like, yeah, Metallica is up there, but Avenge Sevenfold Love. Avenge Sevenfold. Times of Grace is also another great band, but it's evolved. We went from Tony Iommi. I don't know the exact tuning he used. He used different tunings and strings because of the factory incident with his fingers. And that really was the birth of Metal. The birth of Metal. The first time we ever heard metal, in my opinion, is the song Black Sabbath. And I might as well throw the quote out here or excerpt from the biography. I was watching a bit of earlier today. But they were practicing across from a theater, right? Their band, and they're like, well, people are, you know, spending money to go watch these horror movies. Why don't we build a band around that? And there was actually a specific horror movie that I'm forgetting right now that was really the. The premise of the band actually, like the. The initial song. And then obviously the band is the song. [00:20:00] Speaker B: It's actually called Black Sabbath. [00:20:05] Speaker A: Let's get it. Let's. Let's. Let's fucking do a. Let's do a movie commentary. [00:20:09] Speaker C: Okay, here it is. Well, rehearsing new material. The band formerly known as Earth, they were known as Earth originally Supernatural Experience. Geezer and Tony were both playing new riffs for Ozzy and Bill. Much to everyone's surprise, they both strum the same notes at the same tempo, although neither had ever heard the other play that piece before. Convinced this was an omen, Geezer christened the song in the group Black Sabbath after the movie. Tony Iommi's fingertips were a big reason why he had to tune the guitar differently. [00:20:46] Speaker A: Tre Volti della Pora, which is Black Sabbath. [00:20:50] Speaker B: I don't know a lot of things, but I have seen that movie. I know exactly what that movie is. [00:20:55] Speaker A: Boris Karloff is in it in the 60s. I'm kind of Afraid to watch it? Is it like, is he good? [00:21:00] Speaker B: It's fun. Okay, yeah, but like, am I gonna. [00:21:03] Speaker A: Feel bad that Karloff is in it and isn't, you know, Karloff? [00:21:06] Speaker B: I mean, do you feel bad when you watch the Raven? [00:21:09] Speaker A: Well, no, but that's like Corman schlock. I love that movie. [00:21:13] Speaker B: Okay, well then stop and just watch it. It's in black and white. It's great. [00:21:17] Speaker A: All right, whatever, nerd. So Tony Iommi saw that movie and then he was like, holy, man. We should like Mike, our band. It was called Bad Black Sabbath, mate. It was directed by Mario Baba. So, Greg, why is, why is his name Geezer Butler? [00:21:35] Speaker C: There's some story behind it too. [00:21:39] Speaker A: I don't give a. [00:21:40] Speaker C: No, no, I'm dead serious. [00:21:42] Speaker A: There's a story behind him being that's not his real name. [00:21:45] Speaker C: No. [00:21:46] Speaker A: Why would anybody call themselves Geezer Butler? That's the most. [00:21:49] Speaker B: There's an old butler, Geezer Man. [00:21:55] Speaker C: Nah, I, I, okay. Butler adopted the nickname Geezer at an early age. It came because when he was in school, his brother was in the army and he was based a lot of, based with a lot of cockneys. Okay. And in, and people in London call everybody a geezer. It just means a man. So it's like, hello, mate. So it's not. So it's just like Man Butler. [00:22:20] Speaker A: I guess that'd be like if I called myself bro. Like, oh, I'm bro now, you know, I'm Bro Loki. [00:22:26] Speaker B: Bro Loki. Okay, Bro Loki. I'm gonna call you that from now on. Bro Loki. [00:22:31] Speaker A: So, question, I have something I'm wondering is, you know, without Black Sabbath, do we have Ozzy Osbourne as we know him? [00:22:38] Speaker C: No. No. [00:22:39] Speaker A: Okay. So, you know, it's my understanding, and I've read some things, it's my understanding that after, you know, Black Sabbath, you know, after they fucking threw him out for being an unproductive, you know, alcoholic, drug riddled piece of shit and not doing anything and bringing the whole band down, he had nothing. And Sharon sort of started taking over. And without her cleaning him up, he wouldn't have had his second wind, which, well, got us to where we are today, you know. [00:23:05] Speaker B: So how true is that his cleaning up had to deal with him almost killing Sharon and strangling her to death. And it was pretty gruesome. And she stayed with him and was like, this isn't going to work anymore. And that's when it changed. And I will tell you as a businesswoman, that woman as sharp as attack. [00:23:25] Speaker A: Wow. Yeah, yeah. I always got the sense that she was really with it. I mean, I would see her on tv, and I never got the sense that she would. Yeah, no, I mean, you know, fuck, man. I used to. I used to see her on. I think it was America's Got Talent right, when I was younger. Was that the show or was it the Voice or something? [00:23:41] Speaker B: No, I think it was America's Got Talent. [00:23:42] Speaker A: Yeah, whatever. Anyway, yeah, I always liked her. I don't know. She's a celebrity, though, so what do we know about anything? I do think that the two of them played up a lot of things for the press. Like, you know, there's the famous interview where they're being interviewed, and he starts calling her, like, horrific, misogynistic names that are gross up, and she starts cursing back at him. [00:24:04] Speaker B: You know, if you watch the show, like, it came out when I was in high school. The Osbornes. [00:24:09] Speaker A: Oh, gosh. [00:24:11] Speaker B: I know it's super cringe, and a lot of it was, like, you said, theatrical. But I'm gonna tell you, it was Sharon that wore the pants in that family. But they called each other all sorts of things. There was all kinds of bleepity, bleep, bleep, bleeps. [00:24:25] Speaker A: I think on that note, now that you've brought up the fucking sorry show, let's. Let's, you know, let's. Let's go to our top 10 lists, okay? I had a very simple rule when. [00:24:38] Speaker B: We did this, and I didn't follow it. [00:24:40] Speaker A: That's okay. Adrian never follows the rules because she's a bad bitch who marches to the beat of her own savage warrior's drum. So Princess Boudicca, you know, fucking be. [00:24:49] Speaker B: The best compliment anyone's ever given me. [00:24:52] Speaker A: Hey, hey. Queen Boudicca's, you know, standard flies above you. Yeah. So my. My rule was very simple. We all love War Pigs. We all love Iron man. We all love Mr. Crowley, you know, the hits, the big fucking Crazy Train. So I'm like, maybe leave those ones off, you know? And I know we're probably gonna get flamed because I have several on my list that you might think are eternal immortal. The big ones, the fucking big fucking songs that are in movies that you hear on the radio every five minutes, Those are the ones. I was like, those are legit. Okay. Because what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take all the songs that we say, and I'm gonna make a super duper playlist under. I mean, the link will be under the video. [00:25:30] Speaker B: Other people to share with us. Their favorite Aussie songs. And we can add it to the playlist. [00:25:35] Speaker A: Well, sure. Yeah, you can. [00:25:37] Speaker C: That sounds great. [00:25:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Add your Ozzy or Ozzy adjacent things or even covers, because there's a lot of good. And I'd like to talk about that in part two, you know. [00:25:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:47] Speaker A: But, yeah, I'll go first with my list. And there's probably gonna be some duplicates because we're talking about Sabbath. And there also might not be that many duplicates because we're talking about Sabbath and Ozzy and there are many, many, many, many great fucking songs. So in no particular order, because I couldn't be bothered to order these. You got to be fucking kidding me. I've got Fairies wear boots off of. It's paranoid, right? [00:26:12] Speaker C: Yeah. Yes, I believe it's Parent. Yup, it's paranoid. [00:26:15] Speaker A: The Wizard, I love it. Not just because. So what I love about the wizard is it's very clearly about their drug dealer. But Ozzy and all them were like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's. It's about. It's about Gandalf from the Lord of the Rings. You know, that bloke with the beard. Yeah, it's fucking bullshit. [00:26:30] Speaker C: Gandalf. [00:26:31] Speaker A: Gandalf, yeah. You know, evil. Evil powers, evil thoughts, evil feelings disappear when the wizard is near, spreading his magic. Also, the harmonica walk on water, partly because I first heard it in the Beavis and Butthead movie, and also just because it's so fucking good. I think that's off. No more tears, right? Greg, you're my music expert and IB I already spoke about it and its significance in my life. It's wonderful. Under the graveyard off of the Ordinary man album. I really love that album. We were very lucky to get that album. And that song, I always felt like it was written after Sharon left him, got back with him, but whatever. Very nice song. You know, I just want you. Very, very, very beautiful song. Owner off of 13, the final Sabbath album. That whole album is gold. You should listen to it. A national acrobat off of my favorite album, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. And it was so hard to pick, like the last song. Oh, did I say Killer of Giants? [00:27:27] Speaker B: No. [00:27:27] Speaker C: No, you didn't. [00:27:28] Speaker A: Okay, so Killer of Giants is one of my favorites off of the Ultimate Sin. It's a song about nuclear war. Of course, I thought it was about Thor when I first heard it, but, you know, maybe. I mean, there is. There is a vague theme that could tie to Thor because there's lightning strikes on that album as well. And of course, I was Torn between Goodbye to Romance and Sweet Leaf. And I just. I gave it to Sweet Leaf because it's so fucking aggressive, you know? [00:27:51] Speaker C: Thought you said we couldn't use Sweet Leaf. [00:27:52] Speaker A: Oh, wait, yeah, actually, you're right. Yes, we Leaf is off. It's gonna be Bark at the Moon. Because I love werewolves. [00:27:58] Speaker B: I hate you. I hate you. [00:28:00] Speaker A: We can have duplicate. [00:28:02] Speaker B: It was mine. [00:28:03] Speaker A: You know, Bark at the Moon pisses me off because, like, you know, Ozzy thinks we're stupid. He's like, no, man, I'm a. I'm not crazy. You see, I'm a werewolf. You see? And I'm like, dude, style that fucking Bark at the Moon shit. Get the fuck out of here. [00:28:18] Speaker B: You know the music video, he literally ripped off Paul Nash's Dr. Jekyll movie. Like, he's Dr. Jekyll and then he turns into the werewolf. And it's straight up from the Paul Nashi. It is absolutely brilliant. [00:28:33] Speaker A: Paul Nashee episode is in the works. Someday, you know, we're reading a book about it. But, yeah, no, Ozzy. Ozzy can. You know, we know he. We know he's not a werewolf. He's a fucking liar. [00:28:43] Speaker B: Maybe someone got him with the silver. Maybe that's what really killed Ozzy. [00:28:46] Speaker A: Maybe anything's possible with Trump in the White House. [00:28:48] Speaker B: Adrian, I'm going to leave off and damn you for Bark of the Moon. I'm going to leave off the ones that you picked. Okay, so these are, like, the ones that I picked that aren't already on the list. I, like, Close My Eyes Forever that he did with Lita Ford. Oh, my God. Because I was a huge leader Ford fan, anyway. And it's beautiful. And it just. It actually, like, it feels like something like. It's like one of those, like, duos that just, like, really, like. I don't know, it has, like, all of this feeling. I have no more tears. Of course. Like, it has the music video. So I went through and, like, watched all these music videos to these songs that I love that honestly, I had never seen. And all of the Alice in Wonderland references in that music video, but, like, done totally 80s, like, surrealism. It was really fun, and it's just gorgeous. Okay, I can't use that one. Okay, so this is one of my favorites. And it's Party with the Animals. And it's because when I was in, like, fifth grade Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie, not to be confused with the series, the movie came out and there's this moment, and it's like this really epic moment in the Movie where the vampires break into the prom and the DJ gets scared off by this vampire guy and he breaks the record and the music stops and Buffy comes to her senses and she's in a different room and, like, all this stuff happens. But then Party with the Animals starts and all of a sudden the vampire's like. And it starts dancing and his little shoulders go up. And I used to practice that when I was a kid. And then he would do this, like, totally metal, like, vampire moment. It was as a vampire horror nerd. And so many of Ozzy's things are tied into, like, horror movies, like you said, which are my jam, Children of the Grave on there. Because I love that one. It is absolutely. Oh, I love that one so much. So that's the list that I have that. Dan. [00:30:53] Speaker A: Great. Yeah. Okay, Greg, what have you got? [00:30:56] Speaker C: Okay, a couple repeats with you, but I can swap some runners up into, but I'll give the original list as we have it. Okay, so you. I do have it in order, but it's like, not necessarily order of the best song, but order of most connection to me. Most connection to Ozzy, if you will. So I actually have a six to four split. His solo stuff. Six of them. Four of Sabbath songs. So, as you might have guessed, the top one is Goodbye to Romance off of Blizzard of Oz. [00:31:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:34] Speaker C: And you actually reminded me of the song the other day. [00:31:39] Speaker A: I always think about what you said. [00:31:40] Speaker C: Yeah, Yeah. I. I don't know, I felt like at that point I was like, man, I couldn't get things going the way I wanted. You know, I had been chasing. I don't know, like for whatever reason, I was chasing literal romance and striking out and whatnot. And chasing a particular girl at that moment, too. So, I mean, this song felt really good to listen to at the time because it's a song about Ozzy essentially saying goodbye to Sabbath. [00:32:11] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah. [00:32:14] Speaker C: I could really connect with that. It's kind of like just let it go. Whenever I was down, I'd really listen to this song. It's a beautiful song. The great Randy Rhoads, you know, worked on this. He was the guitarist at the time. He helped shape the melody as well. But it's just a beautiful song that Ozzy, you know, put out there with the help of Randy. And I believe the bassist was Bob at the time. So it was beautiful. That's my top one. Now you'll see a theme kind of in some of my songs. My second one is Dreamer. Yeah, yeah. A ballad. We were talking about ballads. I think Zak Wilde played the piano on this ballot. I mean, in the music video he's playing the piano, but I don't know if that's just more of an optical illusion. Zack Wilde's very talented musician, especially a guitarist with the squealies. It's a shame that Ozzy lost Randy due to the plane accident. That was utterly tragic. But Zach Wilde, like, he's no slouch either. Best pinch harmonic guitarist in the world, in my opinion. [00:33:28] Speaker A: I mean, I mean, yeah, Black Label Society. I mean, if you haven't heard of them, man, check them out, you know. [00:33:33] Speaker C: Beautiful. Yeah, but this is just a beautiful song. Like I. And I'm like a dreamer so I can connect to this. Like, I love that chorus. I'm just a dream. I. I don't know how much I can sing because maybe it will. [00:33:49] Speaker A: We're all great singers on. On this podcast, by the way. [00:33:52] Speaker C: Yeah, right. But anyway, yeah, that's me. I'm just a dreamer I'm always dreaming my life away. Sometimes I feel like I have adhd, so I space out and dream and, you know, I can really relate to that song. Okay, number three, it's a dupe, so I might switch this out. I think I've got two dupes so far. Well, not yet, but there are two dupes in my list. Anyway. The wizard, this is my number three. I. I love it. I love the whole, you know, drug dealer connotation it has with it. But I think the part I love the most is we see Ozzy. I don't want to say stepping out of his comfort zone, but I. I'm pretty sure there was like some joke he said once where it's like, what do you play, Ozzy? And he's like, I play the radio. Like, meaning he doesn't play any instruments, but he plays the harmonica beautifully in this song. It's a really good harmonica part. [00:34:51] Speaker A: Fantastic. Yeah. [00:34:52] Speaker C: Yeah. And that's, that's where I connect the most with this song, is Ozzy stepping out of his comfort zone and playing the harmonica. Next, I got a song off of Diary of a Madman, and that is over the Mountain. I love it because I feel like this song, at least my interpretation of it, is kind of like breaking out of your own world, going over that mountain into a different world. And I think that's wonderful. Again, I space out a lot, so that's kind of me. And sometimes I wanted to escape the reality. So when I was in down times, I would listen to Goodbye to Romance and that was the one. And Dreamer Those were the top two. But over the mountain, I listened to. Listened to quite a bit as well. Okay, now this is getting kind of fun. Fairies wear boots. And the reason I really connected with this song was I believe I was out in Utah, Zion national park, and then Arches National Park. There were just these really freaky people that kind of remind me of the people that Ozzy's singing about in his song. [00:36:05] Speaker B: Are we talking about Mormons? [00:36:06] Speaker C: No, no, no, no, not Mormons, but like, you know, skinhead type folks if you want to go that route. That's what the song is actually about. So I don't know, it felt like going to that park was also, like, I never tried lsd, but it almost felt like an LSD trip out of how beautiful it was. And I remember, like, seeing these types of folk there. The sun was setting and then that song started. As the sun was setting, it was going down, getting dark. It was just beautiful. Like, I really connect with fairies where it boots. Okay, another Sabbath song. This is. I got. I got one more Sabbath song after this, but this is the original Black Sabbath off of 1970 Black Sabbath album. So, yeah, it's. I. I learned from Adrian today that horror movie really was Black Sabbath. [00:37:01] Speaker B: It was. [00:37:02] Speaker C: It just different language, but it translates to Black Sabbath. So that tripped me up. But good call, Adrian. I know who to go to for. [00:37:11] Speaker A: All my horror stuff. [00:37:13] Speaker B: I am the one. [00:37:15] Speaker C: And Halloween happens to be my favorite holiday. I'll just throw that out there right now. But, yeah, I love Black Sabbath. The song. I mean, the band, the album, everything. But the song is the song, right? Yeah, I. This song is incredible. Especially when he yells out, oh, no, like. [00:37:38] Speaker A: The church bell. [00:37:39] Speaker C: Yeah, I think that was actually improvised, so that's even cooler. So that was just all kind of on the spot as far as I understood. And, like, I really liked that biography where I don't know how much of it was Ozzy, like, being whacked out over the years, but, like, forming a band based off of, you know, horror movies or having that kind of appeal. It sounded neat. I'll send out the documentary, but I connected with that, too. Okay, so then Ozzy went through some troubled times as we talked about, and Sharon kind of pulled them back. Blizzard of Oz, this is an album. I'm sure he was still going through some troubled times. I don't really know the timeline of everything, but I love the song Suicide Solution. [00:38:28] Speaker A: I love that song, too. Yeah, you did get in trouble for it, but, you know. [00:38:32] Speaker C: Yeah. Actually, it's funny, you try you try to search it on some search engines and YouTube and it, like, tries to, like, give you the help number. [00:38:43] Speaker A: Oh, that's awesome. [00:38:44] Speaker C: Yeah, it's. It's crazy. But, yeah, you know, it's a lot about Ozzy's struggles with sobriety and, you know, coming, becoming a better person after going off the rails again. I don't totally know the timeline, but that was my interpretation of it. And it's a. It's. It's just a kick ass song. I mean, sometimes you don't even need deeper meaning. Some songs just connect with you. They hit. And that one's definitely a hitter. [00:39:11] Speaker A: You know, I gotta say, and I'm sorry to interrupt, but I. A lot of times when you're depressed or you're hurting or you're feeling any kind of angst, you're gonna listen to angry, sad, or broody music, you know, not always, right? [00:39:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:28] Speaker A: What'd you say, Adrienne? [00:39:30] Speaker B: It's a catharsis. [00:39:31] Speaker A: It's a catharsis. And it's nice to hear that someone is feeling what you're feeling, you know? So, like, I've been there. I haven't felt suicidal in decades, but like, you know, there was a time when I was an angsty little teenager, man, you know, and I hated my life and suicide solution was like, hey, someone else felt this way once upon a time and didn't kill themselves, you know? [00:39:53] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. So I. There's actually this very endearing video where there's this little kid that tells Ozzie that he's his favorite musician and he gives him a hug and it's actually a video. It's like 10 minutes of when Ozzy was the nice, nicest person on earth or something. Yeah, just like all the clips that would make you think he's the nicest person on earth, so. Yeah, I'll share that out too with you, Dan. Yeah, but. Yeah, back to my list here. Okay. The next one's a little goofy. I had to have a goofy one on it. But it's not even really. I think it kind of connects to my personality because there's some goofiness in me too. Just some oddity, some weirdness. But it's off of Black Rain, so it's more of a modern ish song. Not totally modern, but it's. I don't want to stop with. Yeah, yeah, but I. I connect with it because I just, like, want to run around and be wild. Like, if people tell me to stop, I just want to be like. I don't want to stop. And I just remember like I was working at a law office at the time. I would just blast the song in my. What was. It was probably a Zune at the time and just walk around listening to it. That would get me through the day. And I just like take my work not super seriously, but I would get it done by just telling myself I don't want to stop. So not like a strong super connection. Very deep. But that's why I like that song and connect with Ozzy. And I remember the music video too. It was very like catchy. And I loved Zak Wilde's pinch harmonics in the song as well. [00:41:53] Speaker A: For sure. [00:41:56] Speaker C: Then my number nine is Mama, I'm Coming Home. You said we could. We could do this one. I. Yeah, I just can't. I just can't not include this one. Frankly. Like, this and Goodbye to Romance I think are his best singing performances. I'm not saying like it's his best writing, but it like. I just love the way his voice sounds in this. It's very like endearing. And I don't know, I love the guitar part to it too. It's just got a lot of good stuff to it. So Mama, I'm Coming Home, it's more of an acoustic song. It's also just. You don't get to see toned down Ozzy very often. So I like that. Okay. So I found this, to me would be the most appropriate song to close out my list. And that is Electric Funeral off of Paranoid. [00:42:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:51] Speaker C: And for a couple of reasons I connect with it because, you know, growing up, learning to play guitar like this was one of the first songs my teacher gave me. It was actually the first song where I was kind of learning like straight up single note riffs as opposed to just power chords. So that was cool. Like the dunno na. Yeah, it was just so good. [00:43:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:16] Speaker C: And it's so addictive to just play that. And I love Ozzy's voice in this. It's just really awesome. And I think it's appropriate to close with it for me, because it's like burying him. I know. It's not literally about a funeral. It's about like an apoc. Apocalyptic theme. But yeah, to me, like now that Aussie's gone, I don't want to be dark and say life is over. It's not. But it's like some kind of world almost died or a new world is beginning. That's probably the better way to think of it. But the life. The world of Ozzie being alive on Earth is dead now, and there's a rebirth of him somewhere beyond the grave. So that's what I closed with. Yeah, I can swap the duplicates out. I've got honorable mentions like Nib, Children of the Grave, which Adrian already covered. No More Tears and Diary of a Madman Man. [00:44:14] Speaker A: Right, okay. Yeah. And Greg, don't be ridiculous. The world ended in 2016 when Bowie died. [00:44:20] Speaker B: So, yeah, agree. [00:44:21] Speaker A: Everyone knows that. Don't be silly. So there you have it. Those are our sort of top 10 lists. I will put all this together into a very cool playlist. And the link is already down below. So that concludes part one of our little rest in peace Ozzy Osbourne episode of Demon Toast. Do come back next week when we go a little deeper, you know, and talk a little bit more about the Oz man, the Prince of Darkness, however you knew him. You know, that fucking guy on the reality show whatever. You know, the guy that hosted the Oscar. [00:44:52] Speaker B: Actually, what I have is a list of like the last movie he did was a horror movie where he's a demonic dog. And it was pretty awesome. I actually saw it. It was written by a guy here in Austin. Like, it's crazy. [00:45:04] Speaker A: Next week. Next week. All right. Yeah. So I am King Loki, of course. I edit Death Wish Poetry magazine. Our. Our physical edition is most likely going to be available next week, so do check that out. And just check out the digital magazine. It's fan fucking tastic. Watch our episodes. You know, deathwishpoetry.com this podcast is gonna be weekly, so there should always be something every week. So do check back. But yeah, if you're interested in checking out my work, all my books and professional writing and junk is on demonlandbooks.com Adrian, where can people find out more. [00:45:37] Speaker B: About you shalottlily on Instagram? [00:45:39] Speaker A: Down below. She is the. Ooh, do we call you the Ch. Chairperson of the Horror Film Art Society. [00:45:44] Speaker B: I am the founder and chairperson of the Horror Film Art Society. So they're a whole bunch of artists. I pick a movie every month and we get together, we watch this horror movie and we create brilliant art inspired in one way, shape, form or fashion by the horror of the film. [00:46:06] Speaker A: Yeah. And if someone's an artist and they would like to contribute something to be shown off at one of your shows, where would they go? [00:46:14] Speaker B: Just message me on Instagram. It's lotlily. If you can't transport your art, I will actually make a digital copy and hang it up either way because I want people involved in this. It's amazing. And after the show, it gets published in Horror to Culture magazine. [00:46:31] Speaker A: And there you have it. Horrortoculture.com. right? [00:46:34] Speaker B: Yes. [00:46:34] Speaker A: Cool. So, yeah, message Adrian. She's awesome and she's cool and sometimes she takes commissions. She's a very talented painter. You're not open for commissions, right? Should I cut that? [00:46:42] Speaker B: I am. It's fine. [00:46:44] Speaker A: Alright, fuck it. Yeah, Greg. Greg is looking for work. He is a very, very, very. He worked for Microsoft up until recently. Events outside of his control conspired to make him have to leave his state where he was working. And as a result he ultimately got fired. It was not his fault. If you need a. A coder, Mr. Beer. Bauer's got your back, Greg. You want to. Want to talk about that or just. [00:47:08] Speaker C: Sure, yeah. Thanks, Dan. Yeah, so I former Microsoft D. Nearly. Was there a decade? Yeah, there was. Got laid off basically. And now looking for more opportunities. I'm currently doing freelance work interviewing daily. So, yeah, come get me on your project before I get snagged up by somebody else. So, yeah, I'm here. Just follow my LinkedIn GitHub below and I can work with you on anything you want to code. [00:47:45] Speaker A: Yeah, cool. So that's all we got for you this week. Write poetry, make art, love your demons. Ave fucking Satanas.